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“Without an economy, there is no justice. Do you support Antifa riots, arson, and looting?” – Challenger
Other person commented – “The riots are bad, of course. People are deprived of property, physically endangered, emotionally stressed, and confidence in the government’s ability to maintain order is eroded. But, we can all agree that this is an evil. However, that conclusion is not particularly relevant. The important question is “Is this a greater or lesser evil than the (various local, state, and federal) governments’ failure to provide justice to the people?”. It is not Antifa that is killing an average of three citizens per day. It is the police. This demands action and when law enforcement agencies and governments ensure that peaceful action is ineffective, they virtually guarantee violent action. Whether this is morally acceptable or not is irrelevant. It will occur whether repugnant to our sensibilities or not. Though I suspect that you would find violent action morally acceptable in at least some circumstances, given that you advertise that you work for an organization whose sole purpose is to kill people and break things.”
Challenger to the Other person – “Nice use of the Moving the Goalposts fallacy, aka the Demanding Impossible Perfection fallacy. You moved the goalposts to police killing anyone for any reason. You obviously need a class on why policing forces have existed in every society since the dawn of civilization. Policing in the USA has never been more professional than today, yet Antifa uses bogus “police brutality” pretexts to promote violent revolution while we’re in the middle of a pandemic crisis. That is really a despicable and vile level of treachery, like robbing a seriously injured person who was just in an accident.”
Other person commented – “It is not at all clear that Antifa supports that. Most especially since Antifa is not an organization, but a movement, and one that demonstrates a fair bit of variety in how anti-authoritarian or counter-authoritarian they wish to be. To be sure there are radical collectivists among them, but there are also liberals. Making the statement that government shouldn’t be killing unarmed citizens, tear-gassing peaceful demonstrators, and suppressing voters will draw in many types.”
My response, I am Antifa
“Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years. As Trump rails against ‘far-left’ fascism, new database shows leftwing attacks have left far fewer people dead than violence by rightwing extremists.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa
My response, I support humanity.
“Damien AtHope That’s great 
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“I’m just kinda trolling ya. I couldn’t care less if you call yourself Antifa if you’re not a violent arsonist, looter, and rioter, etc. I’m a secular humanist, too, just not a radical socialist. More of a moderate liberal agnostic. It should be a big tent, lol. Btw, that database is a load of crap. Just offhand, radicals murdered 5 cops in Dallas, 4 cops in Baton Rouge, 2 cops in NYC, a Rastafarian Trump supporter in Wisconsin, 4 people in Fresno, etc. Many more. Criminals non-coincidently overwhelmingly vote radical Dem; that’s about a million violent crimes a year, falsely described as “random”, as though done by non-thinking natural forces.” – Challenger
My response, Not Antifa just because you want it to be. and I am now waiting for you to list all the right-wing terrorists that are our real problem.
My response, If one is a humanist they are known as such by their behaviors, not the label they claim.
My response, In case you missed it.
My response, I see the problem, do you?
“Damien AtHope I don’t use the right-left language on principle as it is incredibly inaccurate. Why are violent regressive jihadists put on “the left,” for instance? I’m a moderate liberal, so of course, I condemn and demonize both radical and extremist terrorists. If violent, they should be rounded up and imprisoned, and possibly executed after trial. They are all a “real problem.” The database follows the faulty left-right spectrum, not what is or isn’t “Antifa”, which is itself an umbrella term for many fellow-traveller radical groups. It’s clear the those examples I listed fall in the radical camp. Well, most of the UN human rights council members (Bolivia, China, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russia, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan) don’t really care about freedom of expression or assembly at home, so it’s a little rich for them to have superficial concern for antifa in the USA, where antifa is still very free to do what it does.” – Challenger
My response, So again you don’t explain the rightwing threat and I am left wondering what you mean by saying you are a secular humanist? What do you mean by that term and what do you think it has as an obligation? Here is my art and thoughts on humanism.
My response, My art and thoughts on secularism.
My response, “Secular humanism, often simply referred to as humanism, is a philosophy or life stance that embraces human reason, secular ethics, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, and superstition as the basis of morality and decision making.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism
My response, “Who are the secular humanists? Perhaps everyone who believes in the principles of free inquiry, ethics based upon reason, and a commitment to science, democracy, and freedom. Perhaps even you.” — Paul Kurtz (1925 – 2012), founder of the Council for Secular Humanism and Free Inquiry Magazine.
My response, “Secular humanism is comprehensive, touching every aspect of life including issues of values, meaning, and identity. Thus it is broader than atheism, which concerns only the nonexistence of god or the supernatural. Important as that may be, there’s a lot more to life … and secular humanism addresses it. Secular humanism is nonreligious, espousing no belief in a realm or beings imagined to transcend ordinary experience. Secular humanism is a lifestance, or what Council for Secular Humanism founder Paul Kurtz has termed a eupraxsophy: a body of principles suitable for orienting a complete human life. As a secular lifestance, secular humanism incorporates the Enlightenment principle of individualism, which celebrates emancipating the individual from traditional controls by family, church, and state, increasingly empowering each of us to set the terms of his or her own life.” https://secularhumanism.org/what-is-secular-humanism/
My response, “Secular Humanism begins with denial or doubt concerning the existence of anything supernatural—including God—but then goes well beyond that secular stance by positively affirming and valuing the potential of human beings to be kind, enact justice, solve problems, and make the world a better, safer, greener, and more humane place. Secular Humanism rests firmly upon the recognition that humanity’s ability to be cruel, selfish, deceitful, and violent is far outweighed by our more pervasive and dominant capacities to be humane, altruistic, cooperative, sensible, fair, and peaceful. A Secular Humanist is someone who does not believe in the otherworldly tenets of religion, but does believe in the many noble and righteous things of this world, such as cooperation, reason, education, science, humor, inquiry, democracy, compassion, tolerance, imagination, open debate, human rights—and then some.” https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/202002/what-is-secular-humanism
“Damien AtHope Yeah, that’s what I believe. Secular humanism rejects religious, ethnic, racial, and nationalist extremism, and it doesn’t include radical socialism nor does it reject capitalism. Just because I say I reject Antifa doesn’t mean I don’t also reject bigoted/violent extreme “rightwing” groups, which I do reject. That’s the definition of being a moderate, rejecting both sides–the radicals who hate society and want to start over from the root, and the extremists stuck in dogmatic tradition to the point of hate. I read this yesterday from my favorite evolutionary biologist, @BretWeinstein: “I have come to regard a partisan mindset as a serious and contagious mental disorder. It may well prove to be the more dangerous of the 2020 pandemics.” – Challenger
My response, So, if that is true you believe this then I guess you are not voting for Trump as you acknowledge that he is a king of toxic partisan mindset, right? What do you mean by radical socialism?
“That’s great for you, but I don’t think humanism can be comprehensive, which strikes me as very dogmatic sounding. It’s open-ended, and continuously evolving, IMO. I agree humanism has a few principles, but they are very general. If humanism was a specific worldview, it would be just another religion. Humanists can still peacefully and rationally disagree on things like drug laws, abortion, and capital punishment without reverting to stone age supernaturalism and war. What objectively makes a better society and is agreed to by a democratic process is generally the answer. Both Biden and Trump are terrible candidates. They are both incredibly partisan and toxic. I’m voting for the Transhumanist Party candidate as I did in 2016. I mean a radical form of socialism, e.g., communism, which Antifa clearly supports. It’s clear to me, but okay. Antifa is not a registered organization by design, as intended to provide deniability of involvement in violence to its organizers. It’s a typical design of terror groups. The many independent, diverse police departments in the USA recognize the constitutional right to peacefully assemble; they use far less force when violence breaks out compared to police in the vast majority of countries. They aren’t perfect, but that is no legitimate basis for rioting and destroying the economy.” – Challenger
My response, Do you know the different kinds of socialism? I am not a Communist, nor do I support it. I am an anarchist socialist (Libertarian socialism or social anarchism). “Libertarian socialism, sometimes called left-libertarianism, social anarchism, and socialist libertarianism, is a political philosophy within the socialist movement that rejects the view of socialism as state ownership or command of the means of production within a more general criticism of the state form itself as well as of wage labor relationships within the workplace in the form of wage slavery. It emphasizes workers’ self-management of the workplace and decentralized structures of political government, asserting that a society based on freedom and equality can be achieved through abolishing authoritarian institutions that control certain means of production and subordinate the majority to an owning class or political and economic elite.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism#Li
My response, Antifa started with and still has mainly a Libertarian socialism or social anarchism theme. Though all kinds of people even pro-capitalists sometimes support and do activism with the label Antifa. “The label Antifa involves a highly decentralized movement, Antifa political activists are anti-racists who engage in protest tactics, seeking to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other far-right extremists. Individuals involved in the movement tend to hold anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist, and anti-state views, subscribing to a range of left-wing ideologies such as anarchism, communism, Marxism, social democracy, and socialism. Some scholars argue that Antifa is a legitimate response to the rise of the far-right and that Antifa’s violence such as milk shaking is not equivalent to right-wing violence. Scholars tend to reject the equivalence between Antifa and white supremacism.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States
“Damien AtHope Okay, great, I’m for making free enterprise better for society too. Antifa is still predominately a communist outfit, so you might want to reconsider saying you are antifa. Just saying, lol!” – Challenger
My response, Antifa: by Anti-Defamation League “The anti-fascist protest movement known as antifa gained new prominence in the United States after the white supremacist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA, in August 2017. While most counter-protestors tend to be peaceful, there have been several instances where encounters between antifa and the far-right have turned violent. Their ideology is rooted in the assumption that the Nazi party would never have been able to come to power in Germany if people had more aggressively fought them in the streets in the 1920s and 30s. Most antifa come from the anarchist movement or from the far left, though since the 2016 presidential election, some people with more mainstream political backgrounds have also joined their ranks. These antifa sometimes use a logo with a double flag, usually in black and red. Today, antifa activists focus on harassing right-wing extremists both online and in real life. Antifa is not a unified group; it is a loose collection of local/regional groups and individuals.” https://www.adl.org/who-we-are
My response, I have a video of me chastising the proactive violence by Antifa to two Antifa friends telling al to stop such unethical behaviors. So what do you do to challenge extremists and do you have evidence that you personally condemned any right extremists? I hold all accountable regardless of the side or political thinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKM8dXjwsoA&t=2s
My response, I also condemn Antifa violence strongly in this video talking with Matt Dillahunty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7eJK-uD0M&t=2983s
My response, Here are a few types of anarchism thinking.
“Damien AtHope It’s a false dilemma. A pox on both the extremist “alt-right” and the radical “antifa.” There is a third way, democratic humanism; not a combination of both, but a rejection of both. Of course I condemn “rightwing” extremists every day. I’m doing so now. That’s great you’re so active about it. I condemn seditious malcontents of all stripes, especially when they violently take advantage of a national emergency to push their malevolent agendas. Maybe one day I’ll get out there too and help you when there’s common ground.” – Challenger
Other person commented to Challenger, “So do you also condemn the brutal police forces across the United States, which collectively kill over ten times the number of citizens than the law enforcement agencies of the European Union, a collection of 27 countries having a population 200 million people larger than the U.S.? What explains the inferiority of law enforcement that causes so much more harm to the citizenry, yet is so ineffective in preventing/addressing crime? The U.S. kills more of its citizens, imprisons more (absolutely and proportionally) than the worst dictatorships and communist regimes, yet still has more violent crime. In a nation that has more guns than people, and allows gun ownership of some kind in every single state, officers cannot simply kill people every time they suspect the presence of a weapon. If government resists every reasonable measure to reform policing, unreasonable measures will be taken. Just to be clear: This is not a justification or a promotion but a prediction. Don’t blame the weatherman for the hurricane.”
Challenger to the Other person, “I agree as a general statement with your last paragraph, it’s just not legitimately applicable to the USA. I think “civilian brutality”, an irresponsible gun culture, and a culture of crime proceeds attempts at law enforcement and its excesses. That is the problem in the USA right now, not policing per se, which is very professional. Though not excusable, all these high-visibility “police brutality” cases add up to just a few dozen over 20 years, and most are far from cut and dried. The riot organizers don’t care about policing, they are revolutionary zealots skilled at propaganda and inciting people using false pretexts and dubious statistics.”
My response to Challenger,
My response, I am an Anarcho-Humanist as one of my personal main labels.
My response, “These 5 far-right extremist groups could pose a national security threat in the run-up to the election: 1. The Boogaloo Bois, 2. QAnon, 3. The Proud Boys, 4. The Three Percenters movement, 5. The Wolverine Watchmen.” https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/here-are-5-far-right-extremist-groups-or-movements-that-pose-a-national-security-threat-in-the-us
My response, “Far-Right Groups Are Behind Most U.S. Terrorist Attacks, Report Finds White supremacist groups have carried out a majority of “terrorist plots and attacks” this year, according to a report by a think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/us/domestic-terrorist-groups.html#:~:text=Far-Right%20Groups%20Are%20Behind%20Most%20U.S.%20Terrorist%20Attacks%2C,far-right%20group%E2%80%99s%20rally%20in%20Portland%2C%20Ore.%2C%20in%20September
My response, “Far-right extremists behind majority of US domestic terror attacks in 2020.” https://nypost.com/2020/10/23/far-right-extremists-behind-many-us-terror-attacks-in-2020
“Damien AtHope Yes, that’s true. I’d add to that violent domestic jihadist groups too, as they are extremist, dogmatic, religious traditionalists, thus definitionally “far right”.” – Challenger
My response, “WASHINGTON—White supremacists and other right-wing extremists accounted for two-thirds of domestic terrorist attacks and plots so far in 2020, but those by antifascist and other leftist groups are rising, according to a new report on U.S. political violence.” We need to speak out against all unethical violence and even though the far-right is a bigger threat I still condemn the unethical violence done by the far-left. To me in general, violence is only ok in self-defense and/or for other-defense. We can’t claim to be much different if we act the same as those we find unethical. https://www.wsj.com/articles/far-right-groups-cited-in-domestic-terror-attacks-11603367633
My response, I am very against domestic violence as well as against child abuse as well. Here is my art against domestic violence.
My response, Here is one of my art against child abuse.
My response, I am against the jihadist extremist that kill and harm due to art. So I made this art years ago to address my thoughts on that.
My response, Or the Christian fascists, here is art for them.
My response, My art addresses extremists.
My response, My art against child abuse.
My response, You are on a side as the world of politics is just that way. It is like saying you don’t choose a side in morality. It is something that happens just as one is an atheist regardless of what label they choose as it is a position on belief in gods. He is on a political spectrum even if he denies it. Philosophy doesn’t need you to understand it to do it.
My response, Secular Humanism, and Politics: When Should We Speak Out? by Paul Kurtz —“Secular humanists should speak out and act when they believe that their cherished values and beliefs are at stake; they should seek to persuade their fellow citizens about the principles that they consider important to endorse and defend.” —https://mm-gold.azureedge.net/Articles/current_issue/secularhuma
My response, “Let me hasten to say that, although we are concerned with moral and political issues, we should not be identified simply with any political party or particular candidates for office. We should guard against politicizing humanism. We have long argued in the pages of Free Inquiry that we should be open to Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, libertarians and social democrats, radicals and centrists, Greens and Independents. There is no single humanist response to every complex social or public issue that may arise. Ideologically, secular humanists may be laissez-faire free-marketeers or democratic socialists; they may believe in the mixed economy or a federal world government. They all should have a place within the “mansion” of humanism.” https://mm-gold.azureedge.net/Articles/current_issue/secularhu
“Damien AtHope I think Paul Kurtz understood the false ideologies of both the so-called right and left: Wikipedia: “Kurtz was left-wing in his youth, but has said that serving in the United States Army in World War II taught him the dangers of ideology. He saw the Buchenwald and Dachau concentration camps after they were liberated, and became disillusioned with Communism when he encountered Russian slave laborers who had been taken to Nazi Germany by force but refused to return to the Soviet Union at the end of the war.[10]”
My response,
My response, “Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy.[1][2][3][4] Left-wing politics typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.[1] According to emeritus professor of economics Barry Clark, left-wing supporters “claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
My response, “Right-wing politics represents the view that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics, or tradition.[4]:693, 721[5][6][7][8][9] Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences[10][11] or the competition in market economies.[12][13][14] The term right-wing can generally refer to “the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
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